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Re: [osFree] OS/2 Petition Ready!

Post by admin » Sat Jan 05, 2019 9:47 am

#1220 Re: [osFree] OS/2 Petition Ready!
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Tom Lee Mullins
Apr 28, 2005
Kenn Yuill wrote:

>Tom Lee Mullins wrote as follows on 04/28/05 08:31 AM:
>
>
>
>>>>http://www.os2world.com/petition/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>The petition to get IBM to open
>>>>>>source OS/2 is ready and at the
>>>>>>above link. I have signed it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>BigWarpGuy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Having OS/2 open sourced (even if it
>>>>is only parts of it) would be a boost
>>>>to OSFree.
>>>>
>>>>TomLeeM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>IIRC - there were at least 4,000 that signed
>>the petition. Open sourcing OS/2 - even if it
>>is only parts of it - would give OSFree a big
>>boost (IMHO).
>>
>>TomLeeM
>>
>>
>>
>
>Although it is very probable that I will sign this petition, I have
>problems with its construction and tone, plus the fact that it doesn't
>compel me to participate immediately. The petition starts with a
>negative statement whereas it should refer to the "OS/2 Community" as a
>diverse group of programmers, users and developers with grave concerns
>about the future of this excellent operating system. There should be
>some mention of the number of new and improved programs written for OS/2
>in the last few years along with the number of active programmers and
>developers, if available.
>
>This petition *must* convince an executive at IBM, who may not be
>totally familiar with OS/2, that this OS is worth saving and the best
>policy is its release to open source. If I envision myself as such an
>executive, this petition does not convince me unequivocally that OS/2
>has a real future. In other words, all statements should be positive in
>tone, as the objective is to elicit a definitive yes from this decision
>maker, not a "It's a good thought, but..." or "A nice idea, however...",
>but a resounding "Let's do it!".
>
>
>

I will forward your thoughts and suggestions to the person who created it.
Thank you for your e-mail.

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Re: Web Pages for and Authors of OS/2 Software

Post by admin » Sat Jan 05, 2019 9:48 am

#1221 Re: Web Pages for and Authors of OS/2 Software
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Tom Lee Mullins
May 10, 2005

> Hi Folks,
>
> After posting a response to Nathan
> Woodruff on QnE@yahoogroups.com,
> about his inability to have a web
> page for his new financial software,
> Quick'n'Easy Finances (name TBD) and
> suggesting NetLabs.org as a
> possible donor, I began to think
> about the state of software development
> on OS/2-eCS and bemoaned the loss of
> some older programs; Internet
> Adventurer came immediately to mind in my case.
>
> Often I have thought that the OS/2-eCS
> community needed a nonprofit
> organisation for their authors of software,
> such as OSSA, OS/2 Society
> of Software Authors for want of a
> better name. Its purpose would be to
> preserve all programs written for
> OS/2-eCS, whether abandoned or
> released to open source or being
> developed such as Q'n'E, so the legacy
> of this operating system would endure
> and its longevity would be
> enhanced. In this way an author's
> work could be supported during its
> early phases and launch, then
> preserved through continued development by
> fellow authors, long after he or she
> has left the scene due to
> retirement, disability or even demise.
> Of course, such an organisation
> could be set up as a profit-sharing
> one for the authors or their heirs,
> but its establishment must emanate
> from and be maintained by the current
> group of authors, with the active
> support of the OS/2-eCS community at
> large as associate members.
> IMHO, such a society would
> demonstrate the vitality and coherency of
> this community to IBM and certainly
> aid in the goal of having, either
> the rights to all or parts of OS/2,
> along with related employee written
> software under their ownership or
> copyright, assigned to this
> organisation, or, less likely,
> said software released conditionally or
> entirely as open source.
>
> --
> Ciao,
> Kenn
> _________________________________________________________
>

There is also SourceForge at http://www.sourceforge.net
where there are open source projects for Windows, Linux
and OS/2 (plus others). Some could be ported to OS/2(?).
There are thousands of open source projects there.

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Re: [osFree] Re: Web Pages for and Authors of OS/2 Software

Post by admin » Sat Jan 05, 2019 9:49 am

#1222 Re: [osFree] Re: Web Pages for and Authors of OS/2 Software
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Kenn Yuill
May 10, 2005
Tom Lee Mullins wrote as follows on 05/10/05 10:01 AM:

>>Hi Folks,
>>
>>After posting a response to Nathan
>>Woodruff on QnE@yahoogroups.com,
>>about his inability to have a web
>>page for his new financial software,
>>Quick'n'Easy Finances (name TBD) and
>>suggesting NetLabs.org as a
>>possible donor, I began to think
>>about the state of software development
>>on OS/2-eCS and bemoaned the loss of
>>some older programs; Internet
>>Adventurer came immediately to mind in my case.
>>
>>Often I have thought that the OS/2-eCS
>>community needed a nonprofit
>>organisation for their authors of software,
>>such as OSSA, OS/2 Society
>>of Software Authors for want of a
>>better name. Its purpose would be to
>>preserve all programs written for
>>OS/2-eCS, whether abandoned or
>>released to open source or being
>>developed such as Q'n'E, so the legacy
>>of this operating system would endure
>>and its longevity would be
>>enhanced. In this way an author's
>>work could be supported during its
>>early phases and launch, then
>>preserved through continued development by
>>fellow authors, long after he or she
>>has left the scene due to
>>retirement, disability or even demise.
>>Of course, such an organisation
>>could be set up as a profit-sharing
>>one for the authors or their heirs,
>>but its establishment must emanate
>>from and be maintained by the current
>>group of authors, with the active
>>support of the OS/2-eCS community at
>>large as associate members.
>>IMHO, such a society would
>>demonstrate the vitality and coherency of
>>this community to IBM and certainly
>>aid in the goal of having, either
>>the rights to all or parts of OS/2,
>>along with related employee written
>>software under their ownership or
>>copyright, assigned to this
>>organisation, or, less likely,
>>said software released conditionally or
>>entirely as open source.
>>
>>--
>> Ciao,
>> Kenn
>> _________________________________________________________
>>
>>
>>
>There is also SourceForge at http://www.sourceforge.net
>where there are open source projects for Windows, Linux
>and OS/2 (plus others). Some could be ported to OS/2(?).
>There are thousands of open source projects there.
>
>TomLeeM
>
>
>

Yes Tom Lee, I am aware of these sites and their function, but my main
point was about the need for an authors' organisation or guild which
would preserve all OS/2 programs after the author had left the scene and
provide support for budding authors of programs for OS/2. Such an
organisation should, at the very least, maintain the current level of
development and promote new and better programs as well as the
revitalisation of abandoned or neglected ones by current and new
authors. The lifeline of any operating system could be measured by the
vitality of the authors of its programs.

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Re: Web Pages for and Authors of OS/2 Software

Post by admin » Sat Jan 05, 2019 9:50 am

#1223 Re: Web Pages for and Authors of OS/2 Software
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Tom Lee Mullins
May 17, 2005
......

> >>
> >There is also SourceForge at http://www.sourceforge.net
> >where there are open source projects for Windows, Linux
> >and OS/2 (plus others). Some could be ported to OS/2(?).
> >There are thousands of open source projects there.
> >
> >TomLeeM
> >
> >
> >
>
> Yes Tom Lee, I am aware of these sites
> and their function, but my main
> point was about the need for an authors'
> organisation or guild which
> would preserve all OS/2 programs after
> the author had left the scene and
> provide support for budding authors of
> programs for OS/2. Such an
> organisation should, at the very least,
> maintain the current level of
> development and promote new and better
> programs as well as the
> revitalisation of abandoned or neglected
> ones by current and new
> authors. The lifeline of any operating
> system could be measured by the
> vitality of the authors of its programs.
>
> --
> Ciao,
> Kenn
> _________________________________________________________
>

http://www.edm2.com Is a newly updated
OS/2 developers site. They also have
archives/software to download.

TomLeeM

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OpenTTD 0.4.0 released (a FYI post)

Post by admin » Sat Jan 05, 2019 9:51 am

#1224 OpenTTD 0.4.0 released (a FYI post)
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Tom Lee Mullins
May 17, 2005
Text: Version 0.4.0 of OpenTTD, a free open source game similar to Chris
Sawyer's "Transport Tycoon Deluxe", has been released! This version has
many new features, including larger maps (up to 2048x2048!), an
'unlimited' number of towns, industries, stations, etc, heavily improved
and protected network play, a new, smart pathfinder, multiple bus stops
per station, and many, many bug fixes.

The fully-featured OS/2 version uses SDL and can be found at SourceForge:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/openttd/. See also www.openttd.com. Please
note that the original game datafiles are required to play OpenTTD.

If you have any trouble with the OS/2 port, please contact Owen Rudge
(owenowenrudgenet).

Url: http://www.openttd.com/

From: Owen Rudge (owen@...)


Submitted with the form on http://www.os2world.com/submit_news.php from
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OS/2 and eComStation Developers Workshop - Posters and more

Post by admin » Sat Jan 05, 2019 9:53 am

#1225 OS/2 and eComStation Developers Workshop - Posters and more
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Tom Lee Mullins
May 17, 2005
Text: It is time for another Update Mailing for the OS/2 and eComStation
Developers Workshop 2005. As a reminder, the Developers Workshop 2005 will
be held on July 9th and 10th in Dresden, Germany.

Developers from the Ukraine:
We are currently working on the VISA for two developers from the Ukraine.
Thanks to your contributions through sponsor units we hope to have enough
money to invite two developers from to Ukraine to the Developers Workshop.
If all goes well, both will give a presentation on their work for OS/2
applications and drivers.
If you plan to contribute via sponsor units, you can purchase them in the
Mensys online shop.

Reserve your hotel rooms:
Hotel rooms in Dresden for this particular weekend can be scarce! There
are a couple of other events on this weekend so if you already know that
you are attending the Workshop, please consider reserving the rooms as
soon as possible. There should not be problems with finding four or five
star hotel rooms, but cheaper accommodation could be in short supply.
A couple of links to hotel booking websites have been added to the
Workshop homepage to assist you with your planing. If you have trouble
finding a reasonable priced room, you can also contact the Workshop team
via eMail: DevelopersWorkshop netlabs.org

New sessions:
One new session has been added to the presentation list. Vladyslav
Stelmakhovskyy will talk about supporting USB WebCams in OS/2. We are
currently talking to two more people about contributing to the Workshop.
Stay tuned for more exciting topics!

Send your posters:
Posters are a great way to inform people about your work or your project!
If you are developing an application or driver for OS/2 or eComStation or
if you are maintaining a website that is related to a development project,
please consider creating a poster for the Workshop. A poster is simply a
very large paper, for example in the A1 to A3 format, that contains an
overview about a project. While it may not be the ideal tool, OpenOffice
could be used to create posters! A poster should include the following
information:
- a short history of the project and a description
- the current state
- some links to web pages or contact information of the author
- some ideas about how other developers could participate
- anything else that you think is important or interesting
You may also update the posters for later OS/2 events like Warpstock or
Warpstock Europe!
If you cannot attend the Workshop, but would like to present your project
to the community we can make this happen! Here is the deal:
Send us an eMail and let us know that you think about preparing a poster.
Then send us your poster no later then July 4th. Please use PDF, PS, TIFF
or any other ready-to-print format! (no SXW, no PAP, no LWP!!) The
Workshop team will print the posters in Dresden and present them at the
Workshop. There is no cost for you, except the time that you need to
create the poster!
Of course, we will also make the posters available via the Workshop
homepage. This guarantees that a wider audience can have a look at the
them!

Order your Workshop tickets:
Just as a reminder, the Workshop team would appreciate it if you would
register for the Workshop as early as possible. You can purchase your
tickets at the Mensys online shop.


References:
Workshop Homepage:
http://wiki.netlabs.org/index.php/Devel ... kshop_2005

Mensys Online Shop for Workshop Tickets:
http://www.mensys.net/DeveloperWorkshop/

Contact the Workshop Team:
DevelopersWorkshop netlabs.org

I hope to see lots of OS/2 and eComStation developers in Dresden!


Robert Henschel

Url: http://wiki.netlabs.org/index.php/Devel ... kshop_2005

From: Robert Henschel (os2infoDESPAM@...)

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Re: OS/2 Petition Ready!

Post by admin » Sat Jan 05, 2019 9:53 am

#1226 Re: OS/2 Petition Ready!
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Tom Lee Mullins
May 26, 2005

> > > http://www.os2world.com/petition/
> > > The petition to get IBM to open
> > > source OS/2 is ready and at the
> > > above link. I have signed it.
> > >
> > > BigWarpGuy
> >
> > Having OS/2 open sourced (even if it
> > is only parts of it) would be a boost
> > to OSFree.
> >
> > TomLeeM
>
> IIRC - there were at least 4,000 that signed
> the petition. Open sourcing OS/2 - even if it
> is only parts of it - would give OSFree a big
> boost (IMHO).
>
> TomLeeM

It is now up to 7000 signatures. It would be
nice if corporations and some celebrities were
to get involved too.

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Extent of OS/2 Source Code Owned by Microsoft?

Post by admin » Sat Jan 05, 2019 9:55 am

#1227 Extent of OS/2 Source Code Owned by Microsoft?
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Tom Lee Mullins
Jun 20, 2005
"
Dear Tomlee,

Thank you for contacting IBM.

We are in receipt of your e-mail requesting assistance with
locating the extent to which OS/2 Warp source code is owned
by Microsoft.

Please note that you have reached the general, non-technical
helpdesk of IBM.

The transfer of the ThinkPad and ThinkCentre Line of products
to Lenovo was complete as of May 1, 2005.

The authorized service provider for these products remains IBM
SERV. For further assistance, please contact IBM SERV at
1-800-426-7378, option 1, and a representative will further assist
you. Hours of operation are 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

Products out of warranty may be subject to billable charges.

Thank you for visiting our site and contacting IBM.

Avinash G Kumar
Electronic Response Center

CALLOWN Log Number: 3558244
"
I asked about how much of the source code for/of OS/2
is still owned by Microsoft.

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Re: Extent of OS/2 Source Code Owned by Microsoft?

Post by admin » Sat Jan 05, 2019 9:56 am

#1228 Re: Extent of OS/2 Source Code Owned by Microsoft?
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Daniel Lee Kruse
Jun 21, 2005

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--- In osFree@yahoogroups.com, Tom Lee Mullins <tomleem@c...> wrote:
<snip>
> "
> I asked about how much of the source code for/of OS/2
> is still owned by Microsoft.
>

If memory serves, the Presentation Manager. The Workplace Shell was
introduced after their separation - I think. I know SOM (which the
WPS is built) is wholly IBM's and open sourced (or am I dreaming that
one up?).

I suspect some chunks of the multimedia sub-system is, too, co-owned.
The Control Programming Interface before their separation. Chunks
(or most) of the Graphic Primitives Interface. Since the Kernel
Execution Environment wasn't introduced until Warp Server for
eBusiness there is no reason why it wouldn't be wholly IBM's.

I'm sure there's more stuff, but I'm just too tired to think of them
now.

Daniel Lee Kruse

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Re: Extent of OS/2 Source Code Owned by Microsoft?

Post by admin » Sat Jan 05, 2019 9:57 am

#1229 Re: Extent of OS/2 Source Code Owned by Microsoft?
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Monsieur Bill
Jun 22, 2005
--- In osFree@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel Lee Kruse" <warprulz@y...>
wrote:

> --- In osFree@yahoogroups.com, Tom Lee Mullins <tomleem@c...>

wrote:

> <snip>
> > "
> > I asked about how much of the source code for/of OS/2
> > is still owned by Microsoft.
> >
>
> If memory serves, the Presentation Manager. The Workplace Shell

was

> introduced after their separation - I think. I know SOM (which

the

> WPS is built) is wholly IBM's and open sourced (or am I dreaming

that

> one up?).
>
> I suspect some chunks of the multimedia sub-system is, too,

co-owned.

> The Control Programming Interface before their separation.

Chunks

> (or most) of the Graphic Primitives Interface. Since the Kernel
> Execution Environment wasn't introduced until Warp Server for
> eBusiness there is no reason why it wouldn't be wholly IBM's.
>
> I'm sure there's more stuff, but I'm just too tired to think of

them

> now.
>
> Daniel Lee Kruse

The netbios part of the network is microsoft owned, TCP/IP is a fork
from NetBSD.

If you want to see, the owner can be (may be ?) in the header of
each exe/dll

Mercier JF

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