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Re: [osFree] Petition Status at OS/2 World!

Post by admin » Sat Jan 05, 2019 10:57 am

#1261 Re: [osFree] Petition Status at OS/2 World!
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Tom Lee Mullins
Jul 26, 2005
Kenn Yuill wrote:

>Stepan Kazakov wrote as follows on 26/07/05 14:19:
>
>
>
>>Where can i sign _AGAINST_ it ?
>>
>>
>
>It is most probable that you would have to create a petition for this
>purpose. Perhaps Yahoo! or Topica or some other service have this
>option available for a nominal cost or even free. I doubt if OS/2 World
>would be interested, unless such a petition was opposed only to the GPL
>portion of the current one.
>
>
>

Perhaps the question should be 'Why would you be against open
sourcing OS/2?'?

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Re: [osFree] Petition Status at OS/2 World!

Post by admin » Sat Jan 05, 2019 10:58 am

#1262 Re: [osFree] Petition Status at OS/2 World!
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Tom Lee Mullins
Jul 26, 2005
Stepan Kazakov wrote:

> Tom Lee Mullins wrote:
>
> > There are 12,246 signatures on the petition
> > at http://www.os2world.com/petition
> > (as of 07-26-2005).
> >
> > TomLeeM
>
> Dear Thomas!
>
> Where can i sign _AGAINST_ it ?
>
> --
> Dr. Zuko, greatest OS/2 specialist.
>
>

Since I am told that it will probably never happen
(the open sourcing of OS/2 by IBM), another petition
against it would probably be a waste of time. You can
probably create one of your own (not that I would sign
it since I am for open sourcing OS/2).

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Re: [osFree] Petition Status at OS/2 World!

Post by admin » Sat Jan 05, 2019 10:59 am

#1263 Re: [osFree] Petition Status at OS/2 World!
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Kenn Yuill
Jul 27, 2005
Tom Lee Mullins wrote as follows on 26/07/05 19:32:

>Kenn Yuill wrote:
>
>
>
>>>Stepan Kazakov wrote as follows on 26/07/05 14:19:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>>>>Where can i sign _AGAINST_ it ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>It is most probable that you would have to create a petition for this
>>>purpose. Perhaps Yahoo! or Topica or some other service have this
>>>option available for a nominal cost or even free. I doubt if OS/2 World
>>>would be interested, unless such a petition was opposed only to the GPL
>>>portion of the current one.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>Perhaps the question should be 'Why would you be against open
>sourcing OS/2?'
>

I should think that the question should be, 'What is the best course of
action to ensure the survival and future development of OS/2?'
AFAIR, The petitioner(s) did not solicit the opinion of OS/2's community
at large, before embarking on their current initiative. The community
may have opted for OS/2 to be put into the hands of SSI or a foundation,
which may be preferred by IBM as well, over a release to open source.
Of course, the road to survival may have numerous forks, only one of
which is open source.

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Re: [osFree] Petition Status at OS/2 World!

Post by admin » Sat Jan 05, 2019 11:01 am

#1264 Re: [osFree] Petition Status at OS/2 World!
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Stepan Kazakov
Jul 27, 2005
Serghiy M. FEDORYNCHYK wrote:

> Dear Stepan,
> Would you explain - why you think that OS/2 should not be in
> Open Source status?

If you want a serious answer - here it is.

Lets suppose we really have full OS/2 sources.
Who will work on it?
How many OS/2 programmers are alive in the World?
How many system OS/2 programmers?
How many OS/2 driver writers?
How many OS/2 kernel specialists?

If you will answer correctly to these questions - you will have the
right anwser on your question.

Yes, i have those famous kernel sources. Everybody saw it in Russia ;)
I see no way to correct it. Only total rewrite.
Who will do it ? And what for ?

The petition company is the most inadequate and stupid action of
OS/2 fanatics who can't and don't want to see the reality.

Even if every petition's signer will send 10$ per year - i'm afraid you
can't form a normal command of professionals to do the work.

Btw 1/3 of all sources are owned by microsoft+ibm ;)

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OS2eCS.org [Was: [osFree] Petition Status at OS/2 World!]

Post by admin » Sat Jan 05, 2019 11:04 am

#1265 OS2eCS.org [Was: [osFree] Petition Status at OS/2 World!]
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Kenn Yuill
Jul 28, 2005
Tom Lee Mullins wrote as follows on 26/07/05 19:30:

> Since I am told that it will probably never happen
> (the open sourcing of OS/2 by IBM), another petition
> against it would probably be a waste of time. You can
> probably create one of your own (not that I would sign
> it since I am for open sourcing OS/2).
>
> TomLeeM / BigWarpGuy * * * * * *
> OS2eCS.org Director of Marketing * * *


I see that you are on the executive of OS2eCS.org and the only poster
who has identified himself as such, AFAIR. I am curious about its role
in the current petition at OS2 World.

Is it providing the main impetus behind this petition?

I went to the site for OS2eCS.org, but could not find the following data:

1. The location of this organisation's formal charter (USA, Germany,
Czech Republic,...?,
&
2. A listing of its executive (since its list of members is closed to
outsiders).

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Re: [osFree] Petition Status at OS/2 World!

Post by admin » Sat Jan 05, 2019 11:05 am

#1266 Re: [osFree] Petition Status at OS/2 World!
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Tom Lee Mullins
Jul 28, 2005
Kenn Yuill wrote:

>Tom Lee Mullins wrote as follows on 26/07/05 19:32:
>
>
>
>>Kenn Yuill wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>>Stepan Kazakov wrote as follows on 26/07/05 14:19:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>Where can i sign _AGAINST_ it ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>It is most probable that you would have to create a petition for this
>>>>purpose. Perhaps Yahoo! or Topica or some other service have this
>>>>option available for a nominal cost or even free. I doubt if OS/2 World
>>>>would be interested, unless such a petition was opposed only to the GPL
>>>>portion of the current one.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>Perhaps the question should be 'Why would you be against open
>>sourcing OS/2?'
>>
>>
>>
>I should think that the question should be, 'What is the best course of
>action to ensure the survival and future development of OS/2?'
>AFAIR, The petitioner(s) did not solicit the opinion of OS/2's community
>at large, before embarking on their current initiative. The community
>may have opted for OS/2 to be put into the hands of SSI or a foundation,
>which may be preferred by IBM as well, over a release to open source.
>Of course, the road to survival may have numerous forks, only one of
>which is open source.
>
>
>

It was discussed at the forum at http://www.os2world.com .
It did not just happen in a short time period. Other options
are also disccused at the forum there.

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Re: OS2eCS.org [Was: [osFree] Petition Status at OS/2 World!]

Post by admin » Sat Jan 05, 2019 11:06 am

#1267 Re: OS2eCS.org [Was: [osFree] Petition Status at OS/2 World!]
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Tom Lee Mullins
Jul 28, 2005
Kenn Yuill wrote:

>Tom Lee Mullins wrote as follows on 26/07/05 19:30:
>
>
>
>>Since I am told that it will probably never happen
>>(the open sourcing of OS/2 by IBM), another petition
>>against it would probably be a waste of time. You can
>>probably create one of your own (not that I would sign
>>it since I am for open sourcing OS/2).
>>
>>TomLeeM / BigWarpGuy * * * * * *
>>OS2eCS.org Director of Marketing * * *
>>
>>
>
>
>I see that you are on the executive of OS2eCS.org and the only poster
>who has identified himself as such, AFAIR. I am curious about its role
>in the current petition at OS2 World.
>
> Is it providing the main impetus behind this petition?
>
>I went to the site for OS2eCS.org, but could not find the following data:
>
>1. The location of this organisation's formal charter (USA, Germany,
>Czech Republic,...?,
> &
>
>

I am not sure of the charter but we do have a bylaw. :)
http://www.os2ecs.org/bylaws.html

>2. A listing of its executive (since its list of members is closed to
>outsiders).
>
>
>

I will inquire about this in our next meeting. The list of members is
all members. A list of executives is different. I will check the board
members if we can show them without having to be a member. It is a new
group and a new site. There are 'growing pains' for in new groups.

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OT (sortof) OS/2-eCS.Org Design Contest!

Post by admin » Sat Jan 05, 2019 11:07 am

#1268 OT (sortof) OS/2-eCS.Org Design Contest!
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Tom Lee Mullins
Aug 13, 2005
The OS2eCS Organization is seeking design Logo
submissions and an Animated Banner GIF Ad.

The requirements for the Logo is that it reflects the
OS2eCS Organizatoins mission: "Supporting the
past..OS/2 user and the future eComStation user!
" The Logo should be submitted in GIF or PNG format.

All submissions will be reviewed and a winning design picked.
The winner will receive an official eComStation Islander
Cap or Cotton T-Shirt
(http://www.serenity-systems.com/cgi-bin ... fnbr=38952
<http://www.serenity-systems.com/cgi-bin ... fnbr=38952>).


All submissions will recieve an official OS2eCS Org.
bumper sticker with the winning Logo imprinted.

We are also accepting designs for an dvertisement
Banner GIF(Animated GIF) to replace the M$ boycot
banner on our main page: http://www.os2ecs.org
The requirements for this is that it is an animated
GIF that promotes the banner space available for
rent and is the same size as that of the current M$
Boycot ad. The winner of this design will also
recieve an eComStation Islander Cap or Cotton
T-Shirt(their choice).

Submissions should be sent to contests@...
Please include your name and contact information
as well as a proof of your design. Our members will
pick the winning designs after two weeks. We will
display all designs submitted on a special page on our site.

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OSFree at OSViews?

Post by admin » Sat Jan 05, 2019 11:09 am

#1269 OSFree at OSViews?
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Tom Lee Mullins
Aug 14, 2005
I'm aware of it, but have not used it. No one has submitted
an article on the topic for osViews either. If you're
familiar with it would be interested in writing about it,
I'd be thrilled to publish it.


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On Aug 13, 2005, at 2:13 PM, Tom Lee Mullins wrote:

There is a project to clone OS/2 by IBM. It is called OSFree.
It is at www.osfree.org . Have you done any articles on it?
Are you aware of it? I noticed an article on ReactOS. It
was very interesting.

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The above is reply from OSViews about if they had an article on the
OSFree project. I might consider it but there might be more knowedgeable
people who could do a better job.

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Re: [osFree] OSFree Rexx support

Post by admin » Sat Jan 05, 2019 11:10 am

#1270 Re: [osFree] OSFree Rexx support
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adrian suri
Aug 14, 2005
Hi

now that object rexx is open, why not go down this route, I know that
os2 code has not been made available yet, but I think the are working on
this, it would also make sence in terms of development,

adrian

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