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Re: Part 28

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#825 From: "Tom Lee Mullins" <tomleem@...>
Date: Tue Sep 16, 2003 11:08 pm
Subject: Linux Personality on OS/2? bigwarpguy
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http://elfldr.netlabs.org/
I was browsing Netlabs web site and came across this.
I thought this might be of interest to some here (perhaps
a way to make OSFree easier? used as a part of OSFree?).

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Re: Part 28

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#826 From: "Tom Lee Mullins" <tomleem@...>
Date: Tue Sep 16, 2003 11:36 pm
Subject: Re: building OS bigwarpguy
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--- In osFree@yahoogroups.com, "Deepak Syal" <yoursdeepak26@i...>
wrote:
> hi Everyone......
>
> it was great to hear from some one who is 'ving the
same
> mind with me.
> Here i'm 'ving a problem i've decided to make
an
> OS in my final year eng. project i just wanted to know that is it
> possible to make one in just one year......'ve read lot about how
> linux implements its features...and hope to use some of them...but
> there's diff. between understanding and implementing...so plz
help....
> some of you must be knowing a lot about designing and
> implementation phase or working on it ....so could you just give me
> an idea from where i shd start from...do u know bout some books or
> links which could help ... i 've read some but tell me bout them
may
> be they be useful of me.
>
> And i'm 'ving a query that when we will be coding
we'll
> be coding some part in assembly and some in high level ....so i
> wanted to know that if we use C for high level programing -C
> functions use system calls of DOS in that case we will be bind to
> make DOS as our base platform other wise how will we use C's
> functioins.
> if you people can solve my query do mail me up.
>
> Deepak Syal
> computer eng.
> S.G.S.I.T.S
> Indore

You should check out http://elfldr.netlabs.org/ and
http://frepm.sourceforge.net and http://www.freedos.org
and http://sealsystem.sourceforge.net (as well as other
projects at http://www.sourceforge.net and at
http://www.netlabs.org ).

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Re: Part 28

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#827 From: "Adrian Gschwend" <ktk@...>
Date: Mon Sep 22, 2003 7:52 pm
Subject: Re: Alot of Acitivity and Alot of Discussion. netlabsorg
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On 28 Aug 03 00:16:51 +0600, yuri_prokushev@... wrote:

>As I said before, we need to restart project. It is a) Web-site b) CVS.
>
>BTW, Command line tools very near to be completed.

Sorry I think there were some mails about CVS @ netlabs or something
like that. I was in holidays, then I got a new job and now I updated
the netlabs.org server (we now got 70gb and RAID 5

I can for sure provide CVS if needed. How do you want to name it?

cu

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Re: Part 28

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#828 From: "Юрий Прокушев" <yuri_prokushev@mail.ru>
Date: Mon Sep 22, 2003 8:18 pm
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>>As I said before, we need to restart project. It is a) Web-site b) CVS.
>>BTW, Command line tools very near to be completed.
>Sorry I think there were some mails about CVS @ netlabs or something
>like that. I was in holidays, then I got a new job and now I updated
>the netlabs.org server (we now got 70gb and RAID 5
Nice to hear.

>I can for sure provide CVS if needed. How do you want to name it?
Well... osfree is ok for me.

I can commit all my osfree directory. Currently its includes:

1) full copy of osfree code (as was in original osfree CVS)
2) 4os2 code partaily integrated to build system (dll's not compiled yet)
3) fast attempt to make regina rexx works with openwatcom 1.0
4) some other tools, like bldlevel, more, etc from various sources.

Really, still missing:

BACKUP
COMP
DISKCOMP
DISKCOPY
DTRACE
EAUTIL
FIND
FSACCESS
HELPMSG
KEYB
LVM
MAKEINI - can be used xMakeIni
MORE - not fully correct implementation
PATCH
PDUMPSYS
PDUMPUSR
PRINT
PROCDUMP
PSTAT
RECOVER
REPLACE
RESTORE
SORT
SPOOL
STRACE
SYSLEVEL
TRACE
TRAPDUMP
TRSPOOL
UNDELETE
XCOPY
VMDISK

Actually, I propose to implement these tools and start thinking about
CPI reimplementation (Kernel independed parts first, like MSG).
u/cln2366/www.connect.ru

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Re: Part 28

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#829 From: "Mike Dugan" <menchie@...>
Date: Tue Sep 23, 2003 6:14 am
Subject: New Non-Programmer thedugan
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..like you really need someone like me around at this stage, eh?

What's the status of this thing? I've started reading the archives
here on Yahoo, but it's a lot to digest.

I started snooping around on the net, looking for info on OS/2, as a
friend at work wanted to get rid of some old 486's (and I wanted a
case to build a new box) - and included in the pile-o-stuff a version
2 copy of OS2 - then I ran across this group.

What's the hardware requirements for running this?

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Re: Part 28

Post by admin » Sat Dec 22, 2018 10:21 am

#830 From: "Tom Lee Mullins" <tomleem@...>
Date: Wed Sep 24, 2003 4:34 pm
Subject: Re: New Non-Programmer bigwarpguy
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--- In osFree@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Dugan" <menchie@h...> wrote:
> ..like you really need someone like me around at this stage, eh?
>
> What's the status of this thing? I've started reading the archives
> here on Yahoo, but it's a lot to digest.
>
> I started snooping around on the net, looking for info on OS/2, as a
> friend at work wanted to get rid of some old 486's (and I wanted a
> case to build a new box) - and included in the pile-o-stuff a version
> 2 copy of OS2 - then I ran across this group.
>
> What's the hardware requirements for running this?

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/os2conect
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/os2hardware

These two groups are very good with those kinds of questions
(hardware requirements). I used OS/2 Warp ver 3 on a 486 and
on a notebook computer with 75mhz cpu, 18 meg ram, and a 1.2
gigabyte hard drive (worked quite well).

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/warpbrowsers
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/warpmedia
More groups for OS/2 users.

BigWarpGuy

PS There is a forum at http://www.os2world.com
and http://en.os2.org .

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Re: Part 28

Post by admin » Sat Dec 22, 2018 10:23 am

#831 From: "Tom Lee Mullins" <tomleem@...>
Date: Thu Sep 25, 2003 6:12 pm
Subject: OT - Reasons to Continue? bigwarpguy
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Reason One:

"
http://www.os2world.com/cgi-bin/news/vi ... 1062725924

Sun says there are 20 million OS/2 users - 9/05/03 @ 03:38

From: "Mark Dodel"

http://www.cbronline.com/latestnews/...

DATE: 22/08/2003

Mad Hatter Plans OS/2 Tea Party

By Gavin Clarke

"Sun Microsystems Inc's planned Linux desktop Project Mad Hatter is
making a play for millions of customers running OS/2 and seeking a
low-cost alternative to Windows.

Curtis Sasaki, Sun vice president of engineering for desktop
solutions, told ComputerWire the company "conservatively" estimates
there are 20 million customers stranded on IBM Corp's legacy operating
system. ..."

"

Reason Two:

"
Too Much Microsoft Can Be Dangerous
That's the opinion of a panel of security experts, which blasted
the company for vulnerabilities in its software and said its
monopoly on operating systems is a security risk for businesses
and the country.
http://www.informationweek.com/story/sh ... D=15200245
"

Two reasons to continue the OSFree project: 1 - alot of
OS/2 Warp users who might want to continue with OS/2 (or a
clone of it) and 2 - to limit Windoze(?).

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Re: Part 28

Post by admin » Sat Dec 22, 2018 10:24 am

#832 From: menchie@...
Date: Fri Sep 26, 2003 5:57 am
Subject: Re: OT - Reasons to Continue? thedugan
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> Reason One:
> http://www.os2world.com/cgi-bin/news/vi ... 1062725924
> Sun says there are 20 million OS/2 users -
> http://www.cbronline.com/latestnews/...

> Mad Hatter Plans OS/2 Tea Party
> By Gavin Clarke
>
> "Sun Microsystems Inc's planned Linux desktop Project Mad Hatter is
> making a play for millions of customers running OS/2 and seeking a
> low-cost alternative to Windows.
>
> Curtis Sasaki, Sun vice president of engineering for desktop
> solutions, told ComputerWire the company "conservatively" estimates
> there are 20 million customers stranded on IBM Corp's legacy operating
> system. ..."

Hmmm... I wonder how long it will be before THAT goes into an FTP site.
(given the nature of Linux endeavours)

> Reason Two:
> Too Much Microsoft Can Be Dangerous
> That's the opinion of a panel of security experts, which blasted
> the company for vulnerabilities in its software and said its
> monopoly on operating systems is a security risk for businesses
> and the country.
> http://www.informationweek.com/story/sh ... D=15200245

Couldn't get this to come up....

> Two reasons to continue the OSFree project: 1 - alot of
> OS/2 Warp users who might want to continue with OS/2 (or a
> clone of it) and 2 - to limit Windoze(?).

Color me #2, though I'm not really a "OS/2 guy"....just interested in seeing
more alternatives out there.

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Re: Part 28

Post by admin » Sat Dec 22, 2018 10:25 am

#833 From: "Tom Lee Mullins" <tomleem@...>
Date: Fri Sep 26, 2003 6:16 pm
Subject: Re: OT - Reasons to Continue? bigwarpguy
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> > Reason One:
> >
http://www.os2world.com/cgi-bin/news/vi ... 1062725924
> > Sun says there are 20 million OS/2 users -
> > http://www.cbronline.com/latestnews/...
...
>
> > Reason Two:
> > Too Much Microsoft Can Be Dangerous
> > That's the opinion of a panel of security experts, which blasted
> > the company for vulnerabilities in its software and said its
> > monopoly on operating systems is a security risk for businesses
> > and the country.
> >
http://www.informationweek.com/story/sh ... D=15200245
>
> Couldn't get this to come up....

It seems to have disappeard. I wish I had saved it as a file.

Is Microsoft software a threat to national security?

Last week, Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer admitted that the software giant
has been humbled by the latest flurry of worms and viruses. This week, a
report from a computer industry group critical of Microsoft offered a
different perspective: Its authors suggest that Microsoft be forced to
support multiple platforms and publish interface specifications to major
functional components. Is the Windows platform a threat to national
security?
> Read full story
http://ct.com.com/click?q=48-ggybIdByVd ... pb2ZH50cGJ

See also: Virus strikes State Department
http://ct.com.com/click?q=01-9o0DI2joO5 ... fnGPpWYs~i

Here is another similar story.
>
> > Two reasons to continue the OSFree project: 1 - alot of
> > OS/2 Warp users who might want to continue with OS/2 (or a
> > clone of it) and 2 - to limit Windoze(?).
>
> Color me #2, though I'm not really a "OS/2 guy"....
> just interested in seeing
> more alternatives out there.

There are other non-Win os's.
ReactOS http://www.reactos.sourceforge.net
SealSystem http://sealsystem.sourceforge.net which works on DOS
FreeDOS http://www.freedos.org http://sourceforge.net/projects/freedos
DrDOS http://www.drdos.com
http://pcgem.iwarp.com/
Doors http://dos.sourceforge.net
and others (IIRC on the URLs).

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Re: Part 28

Post by admin » Sat Dec 22, 2018 10:27 am

#834 From: "Mike Dugan" <menchie@...>
Date: Sat Sep 27, 2003 7:28 pm
Subject: Re: OT - Reasons to Continue? thedugan
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> > > Two reasons to continue the OSFree project: 1 - alot of
> > > OS/2 Warp users who might want to continue with OS/2 (or a
> > > clone of it) and 2 - to limit Windoze(?).
> >
> > Color me #2, though I'm not really a "OS/2 guy"....
> > just interested in seeing
> > more alternatives out there.
>
> There are other non-Win os's.

Yep, my original reason for lookiing into OS/2 was that I got version
2.0 and most of a 486 from this guy. Since I didn't have a modern
motherboard (and that's why I took the case that had the 486 in it),
I decided to make a DOS box until I free up the capital to make a
machine that will render stuff in a reasonable time....

> ReactOS http://www.reactos.sourceforge.net

Not ready, but it's looking good...

> SealSystem http://sealsystem.sourceforge.net which works on DOS

ummm.....part of the reason I need MORE funds is to buy a good
motherboard and another VGA monitor - I've got an EGA card and
monitor
(basically, I'm building a Retro-Box to relive my 20's for now)

> FreeDOS http://www.freedos.org
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/freedos

Got the CD.....

> DrDOS http://www.drdos.com
> http://pcgem.iwarp.com/
> Doors http://dos.sourceforge.net
> and others (IIRC on the URLs).

There's a few DOS shells that don't require VGA, and I've got a few
to more to look over - thanks!

> BigWarpGuy

Hey, you're that guy from the other list.

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