Part 41 - Mar 21 2005

Post by **admin** » Sat Jan 05, 2019 9:37 am

#1210 Re: New OS/2 eCS Group
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Tom Lee Mullins
Mar 21, 2005
.....

>
> I have read the complaints about
> your multiple posts to some lists and
> about them being duplicates of the
> announcements from V.O.I.C.E News.
> Unfortunately, some people become
> very upset about this practise, as if
> it is the "Eleventh Sin", whereas the
> sane approach is to delete any
> duplicated news items as one does for
> other duplicated e-mail or ones of
> no interest. IMHO, the first source
> of news about OS/2 should be
> "V.O.I.C.E. News", but I do laud your
> desire to keep the OS/2 community
> informed of any news related to it.
> When you announced that your new
> group at Yahoo!, I thought that a
> better name would have been "OS/2
> News+" to cover any items not
> appearing in the V.O.I.C.E. Newsletter or
> site, while promoting it as the primary
> source of news on OS/2 & eCS.
> Also, It could have been a forum to
> discuss all news related directly
> and indirectly to OS/2-eCS,
> especially for those users who prefer e-mail
> to newsgroups.
>
> --
> Ciao,
> Kenn
>

I forwarded OS/2-eCS news not only to groups
but also to some computer magazines in hopes that
they might print them in their magazine(s).

Some OS/2-eCS groups are specific areas. I just
wanted a place that can talk about anything OS/2
or eCS without it being off topic. With the
eComStation group, it is only for the promotion of
eCS. The eCSapps was created just for apps for eCS.
The eCS-Technical group was created for any one
seeking help with eCS. These two groups were created
so people will have a place to talk about those areas
while posting them to the eCS group. I thought it would
be neat to have just one group for anything OS/2-eCS
where it is only 'off topic' when it does not cover
anything related to OS/2-eCS. I never really thought
any one would want to join since there are alot of
groups, lists and forums for OS/2-eCS.

Your ideas and suggestions are good ones. Thanks.

TomLeeM

Post by **admin** » Sat Jan 05, 2019 9:39 am

#1211 Petition to IBM to Open Source OS/2
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Tom Lee Mullins
Mar 23, 2005
http://www.os2world.com/petition/
Here is a link to sign a petition
to open source OS/2. I hope there
is enough signatures so IBM would
- at least consider - open sourcing
OS/2.

TomLeeM

Post by **admin** » Sat Jan 05, 2019 9:40 am

#1212 OS/2 News Forwarded To Computer Magazines!
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Tom Lee Mullins
Mar 23, 2005
...

I will forward the announcements not to OS/2
or eCS groups but to computer magazines which
will show them that there is not only interest
in OS/2 and eCS but also program/software
developement for both platforms. I doubt they
subcribe to OS/2 VOICE but it would be nice if
they did.

TomLeeM

Post by **admin** » Sat Jan 05, 2019 9:41 am

#1213 Re: Petition to IBM to Open Source OS/2
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Tom Lee Mullins
Mar 23, 2005

> http://www.os2world.com/petition/
> Here is a link to sign a petition
> to open source OS/2. I hope there
> is enough signatures so IBM would
> - at least consider - open sourcing
> OS/2.
>
> TomLeeM

It is a very rough draft. I was too premature to
announce it. It is still being worked on. I aplogize
if this has inconvenience anyone.

TomLeeM

Post by **admin** » Sat Jan 05, 2019 9:42 am

#1214 Re: Petition to IBM to Open Source OS/2
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bervoets_alex
Mar 24, 2005
--- In osFree@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Lee Mullins" <tomleem@c...>
wrote:

>
> > http://www.os2world.com/petition/
> > Here is a link to sign a petition
> > to open source OS/2. I hope there
> > is enough signatures so IBM would
> > - at least consider - open sourcing
> > OS/2.
> >
> > TomLeeM
>
> It is a very rough draft. I was too premature to
> announce it. It is still being worked on. I aplogize
> if this has inconvenience anyone.
>
> TomLeeM

Hi Tom Lee,

I'd also like to see OS/2 become open sourced so I signed your
petition.
I'd like to ask IBM to open source another program : "Workplace
shell for windows". This is IBM employee written software (freeware)
which hasn't been updated for a long time now (runs only on Win 3.1).
The sources could be useful for OSFree and/or ReactOS (OS/2
subsystem).
Do you happen to know the name of an IBM contact person to whom I
can forward my request (don't want to send this to sales or tech
support) ?

Thanks,

Post by **admin** » Sat Jan 05, 2019 9:42 am

#1215 OS/2 Petition Ready!
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Tom Lee Mullins
Apr 8, 2005
http://www.os2world.com/petition/
The petition to get IBM to open
source OS/2 is ready and at the
above link. I have signed it.

BigWarpGuy

Post by **admin** » Sat Jan 05, 2019 9:43 am

#1216 Re: OS/2 Petition Ready!
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Tom Lee Mullins
Apr 14, 2005

> http://www.os2world.com/petition/
> The petition to get IBM to open
> source OS/2 is ready and at the
> above link. I have signed it.
>
> BigWarpGuy

Having OS/2 open sourced (even if it
is only parts of it) would be a boost
to OSFree.

TomLeeM

Post by **admin** » Sat Jan 05, 2019 9:44 am

#1217 Web Pages for and Authors of OS/2 Software
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Kenn Yuill
Apr 18, 2005
Hi Folks,

After posting a response to Nathan Woodruff on QnE@yahoogroups.com,
about his inability to have a web page for his new financial software,
Quick'n'Easy Finances (name TBD) and suggesting NetLabs.org as a
possible donor, I began to think about the state of software development
on OS/2-eCS and bemoaned the loss of some older programs; Internet
Adventurer came immediately to mind in my case.

Often I have thought that the OS/2-eCS community needed a nonprofit
organisation for their authors of software, such as OSSA, OS/2 Society
of Software Authors for want of a better name. Its purpose would be to
preserve all programs written for OS/2-eCS, whether abandoned or
released to open source or being developed such as Q'n'E, so the legacy
of this operating system would endure and its longevity would be
enhanced. In this way an author's work could be supported during its
early phases and launch, then preserved through continued development by
fellow authors, long after he or she has left the scene due to
retirement, disability or even demise. Of course, such an organisation
could be set up as a profit-sharing one for the authors or their heirs,
but its establishment must emanate from and be maintained by the current
group of authors, with the active support of the OS/2-eCS community at
large as associate members.
IMHO, such a society would demonstrate the vitality and coherency of
this community to IBM and certainly aid in the goal of having, either
the rights to all or parts of OS/2, along with related employee written
software under their ownership or copyright, assigned to this
organisation, or, less likely, said software released conditionally or
entirely as open source.

--
Ciao,
Kenn
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Post by **admin** » Sat Jan 05, 2019 9:45 am

#1218 Re: OS/2 Petition Ready!
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Tom Lee Mullins
Apr 28, 2005

> > http://www.os2world.com/petition/
> > The petition to get IBM to open
> > source OS/2 is ready and at the
> > above link. I have signed it.
> >
> > BigWarpGuy
>
> Having OS/2 open sourced (even if it
> is only parts of it) would be a boost
> to OSFree.
>
> TomLeeM

IIRC - there were at least 4,000 that signed
the petition. Open sourcing OS/2 - even if it
is only parts of it - would give OSFree a big
boost (IMHO).

TomLeeM

Post by **admin** » Sat Jan 05, 2019 9:46 am

#1219 Re: [osFree] OS/2 Petition Ready!
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Kenn Yuill
Apr 28, 2005
Tom Lee Mullins wrote as follows on 04/28/05 08:31 AM:

>>>http://www.os2world.com/petition/
>>>> > The petition to get IBM to open
>>>> > source OS/2 is ready and at the
>>>> > above link. I have signed it.
>>>> >
>>>> > BigWarpGuy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Having OS/2 open sourced (even if it
>>> is only parts of it) would be a boost
>>> to OSFree.
>>>
>>> TomLeeM
>>
>>
>
>IIRC - there were at least 4,000 that signed
>the petition. Open sourcing OS/2 - even if it
>is only parts of it - would give OSFree a big
>boost (IMHO).
>
>TomLeeM
>

Although it is very probable that I will sign this petition, I have
problems with its construction and tone, plus the fact that it doesn't
compel me to participate immediately. The petition starts with a
negative statement whereas it should refer to the "OS/2 Community" as a
diverse group of programmers, users and developers with grave concerns
about the future of this excellent operating system. There should be
some mention of the number of new and improved programs written for OS/2
in the last few years along with the number of active programmers and
developers, if available.

This petition *must* convince an executive at IBM, who may not be
totally familiar with OS/2, that this OS is worth saving and the best
policy is its release to open source. If I envision myself as such an
executive, this petition does not convince me unequivocally that OS/2
has a real future. In other words, all statements should be positive in
tone, as the objective is to elicit a definitive yes from this decision
maker, not a "It's a good thought, but..." or "A nice idea, however...",
but a resounding "Let's do it!".

--
Ciao,
Kenn
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